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Organized religion is the absolute human invention ever. I’d say that the “big three” religions owe humanity a HUGE apology for the harm they have caused us all.
@wpkronkat
Yeah, Abraham the polytheist made a big mistake at age 75 when he selected the war god to be his mono Deity. Give me polytheism any day…..when you have many gods and less Prophets to criticise much less offence can be taken.
@ hotrats
Its us British atheists that should feel the subject of micro aggression given 26 mandatory Bishops interfering with our government in the House Of Lords and taxpayer funded “Faith Schools” indoctrinating our kids.
@PrimalVirtue, here in Arizona we have expanded school vouchers to the extent that most of our tax dollars will soon be going to “Faith Schools”. Other states are doing the same thing.
wpkronkat: What do you mean by the “big three”? Christianity, Islam, Hinduism & Buddhism are all pretty big in numbers of followers and all four have blood on their hands.
Justin Case: Am I right in thinking that very few Arizona tax dollars are going to Muslim schools? Or Hindu schools? Or Buddhist schools?
“We must, therefore, be critical of the ways in which trans bodies are being appropriated as the battleground on which the war of freedom of speech is waged. Debates about gender neutral pronouns or the validity of trans identities are not only discussions about (dis)allowable speech but, also, affronts on the reality of trans experience. These debates, regardless of how “neutrally” they are presented, constitute a form of epistemic violence that dehumanizes trans people by denying the validity of trans experience.”
One of the “preachers” outside one of the cathedrals here yesterday was shouting to the people that nobody appreciates god sacrificing his son, and that those who say Jesus as a swear word are an “enemy of god”.
I must have committed a micro-aggression because I immediately started singing the chorus to the Kreator song of the same name.
@Author: Fabulous. A little bit of criticism of the victimhood culture is always appreciated.
@Ophelia Benson: thanks for the link. Quite scary, by the way. It basically says that even raising a question or debate on the trans-gender issue is the same as actual physical violence. We are on the verge of totally suppressing free speech.
OK, Mr. Thicky here has a question.
Epistemic relates to knowledge or knowing, so what the fuck is ‘epistemic violence’ besides a conversation-killing buzz phrase?
This postmodern world is certainly confusing. DH, regarding the previous thread, guess you can discuss if snowflake is an accurate description, and Hitler doesn’t always behave the way you expect him to either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMSmUzDt-7U
Someone, thanks. Just as I thought; “You can’t say that, it hurts me”.
Words can certainly lead to violence, but speech being violent in and of itself?, Ah, words fail me.
SoG, every that phrase is mentioned I hear it in Rik Mayall’s voice from a scene in Bottom, where Eddie Hitler (Ade Edmonson) is insulting Rik.
Rik: “Sticks and stones may brrreak my bones..”
Eddie: (picks up a baseball bat) “Let’s find out.”
THWACK!
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Micro-aggression is a terrible thing; with the religious, I find macro-aggression is more satisfying.
Organized religion is the absolute human invention ever. I’d say that the “big three” religions owe humanity a HUGE apology for the harm they have caused us all.
A masterpiece. I wonder if the perpetually offended are going to get this one (I doubt it).
I am truly thankful that Jesus and Mo have been around for 12 years! It will be interesting to see how the boys behave in their teenaged years.
@wpkronkat
Yeah, Abraham the polytheist made a big mistake at age 75 when he selected the war god to be his mono Deity. Give me polytheism any day…..when you have many gods and less Prophets to criticise much less offence can be taken.
@ hotrats
Its us British atheists that should feel the subject of micro aggression given 26 mandatory Bishops interfering with our government in the House Of Lords and taxpayer funded “Faith Schools” indoctrinating our kids.
@PrimalVirtue, here in Arizona we have expanded school vouchers to the extent that most of our tax dollars will soon be going to “Faith Schools”. Other states are doing the same thing.
Happy birthday, J&M!
wpkronkat: What do you mean by the “big three”? Christianity, Islam, Hinduism & Buddhism are all pretty big in numbers of followers and all four have blood on their hands.
Justin Case: Am I right in thinking that very few Arizona tax dollars are going to Muslim schools? Or Hindu schools? Or Buddhist schools?
micro? time to up the scale to the same straight aggression we are dealt everyday.
Perfect, Author. Simply perfect. Another great punch line.
Acolyte, I responded to your comment on the previous thread. Horrifying link you sent me.
Micro agression? How trivial
More butt hurt for the millennial.
The politically correct
Their brains they infect
With angstful handwringing drivel.
Want to read more about epistemic violence? Here’s a treat for you!
https://www.facebook.com/WLURainbowCentre/posts/1628430573891091
Here’s a nice sample:
“We must, therefore, be critical of the ways in which trans bodies are being appropriated as the battleground on which the war of freedom of speech is waged. Debates about gender neutral pronouns or the validity of trans identities are not only discussions about (dis)allowable speech but, also, affronts on the reality of trans experience. These debates, regardless of how “neutrally” they are presented, constitute a form of epistemic violence that dehumanizes trans people by denying the validity of trans experience.”
“A micro-aggression you say? I’m sorry, I hoped you’d see it as at least a milli-aggression.”
One of the “preachers” outside one of the cathedrals here yesterday was shouting to the people that nobody appreciates god sacrificing his son, and that those who say Jesus as a swear word are an “enemy of god”.
I must have committed a micro-aggression because I immediately started singing the chorus to the Kreator song of the same name.
The only apology the barmaid owes them is a homeopathic one.
Ophelia – We’re doomed!
@Author: Fabulous. A little bit of criticism of the victimhood culture is always appreciated.
@Ophelia Benson: thanks for the link. Quite scary, by the way. It basically says that even raising a question or debate on the trans-gender issue is the same as actual physical violence. We are on the verge of totally suppressing free speech.
OK, Mr. Thicky here has a question.
Epistemic relates to knowledge or knowing, so what the fuck is ‘epistemic violence’ besides a conversation-killing buzz phrase?
This postmodern world is certainly confusing. DH, regarding the previous thread, guess you can discuss if snowflake is an accurate description, and Hitler doesn’t always behave the way you expect him to either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMSmUzDt-7U
As for the possible conspiracy by satire sites – they apparently even went to the trouble of staging a senate hearing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnIAAkSNtqo
If it’s any consolation Canada is not alone (http://quillette.com/2017/11/14/academic-freedom-threat-sweden/) and there seem to be plenty of examples (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiMVx2C5_Wg) from your Southern neighbours on youtube as well.
Acolyte, a quick search led to “the infliction of harm against subjects through discourse”.
So, anything uttered by a nasty politician, preacher or Donald Trump.
Someone, thanks. Just as I thought; “You can’t say that, it hurts me”.
Words can certainly lead to violence, but speech being violent in and of itself?, Ah, words fail me.
AoS: “Sticks & stones …”
SoG, every that phrase is mentioned I hear it in Rik Mayall’s voice from a scene in Bottom, where Eddie Hitler (Ade Edmonson) is insulting Rik.
Rik: “Sticks and stones may brrreak my bones..”
Eddie: (picks up a baseball bat) “Let’s find out.”
THWACK!