Could, but not really, right? I mean, Author is fairly discreet about his identity, but he has naught to fear from the UK criminal justice system anyway, because it isn’t a criminal offense, is it?
Good spot, Chris K. It’s not a typo, just a clumsly, ambiguous construction. It means “confirms that I am God’s final prophet in the Koran”. Thanks for pointing it out. I’ll be more careful in the future!
Reading up a little on the various acts concerning hate crimes in the UK … In the verbiage, it looks to me like Author for example can say what he wants about the likelihood that Mohammed’s claims are valid.
In the circumstances of hatred based on religious belief or on sexual orientation, the relevant act (namely, words, behaviour, written material, or recordings, or programme) must be threatening and not just abusive or insulting.
Wikipedia helpfully includes some examples, and the one I found interesting was one Harry Taylor, who left anti-religious literature in an airport prayer room and got smacked down for it. Would we do that? Well, I hope not.
Mohammed was a wacko, and I don’t mind saying so, but you need to think about whether it’s in a context that calls for it. An airport prayer room was not such a context, and Mr. Taylor’s defense could only be that he was too obtuse to understand this.
He might even so have gotten away with it, if the material hadn’t included a lot of crude sex stuff, guaranteed to not help your case. The cartoon where a smiling Jesus on the cross appears next to a can of new “no nails” adhesive – that might have gotten a laugh, and a “condition of this offense.”
Donn. Whilst wearing a T-Shirt with the slogan…”Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into Buildings” I was asked to remove the “offensive and Islamophobic” T-shirt by a policeman in Manchester. And I have been asked to leave and barred from several pubs in Manchester and twice in different parts of Yorkshire. Though I wore that top in a stag pub crawl in Chester and only received positive comments until I was too pissed to understand English….🤣
M27, so that is how it is in your country which lacks a constitution that provides a wall between religion and government? I’m glad we have such a divide here in the USA. btw, Kamala cleaned tRump’s clock tonight. I am celebrating. I am sure you are, too. What would it take for you to have separation of church and state in the UK? That is if it weren’t a fucking kingdom?
To be fair, it’s a pretty damned thin wall. So subject to interpretation, that in practice the difference could be somewhat elusive.
I suspect I’ll never see anyone wearing that T-shirt here in Portugal, but it isn’t because the authorities would come down on the wearer, more because it isn’t the kind of divisive issue where anyone enjoys getting in people’s faces about it. Who knows, maybe it’s even because the Catholic church held sway for so many centuries here, where in the US the various religious cults were duking it out the whole time.
And maybe because as yet the modern moorish invasion hasn’t really gone very far here. That’s what’s going on with the islamophobia thing – the T-shirt is about specifically middle eastern terrorists. It’s as much like racism (not, because pretty much the same race), as religion (not, because it objects to actions with a vague connection to foreign religion and neglects to criticise domestic religion.)
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Is there a typo – a superfluous “I am” – in the first panel? Shouldn’t “confirms that I am in the Koran” actually be “confirms that in the Koran”?
Would I lie to you?
lol – Circular Formula Error
Pointing out the fact that Mo just made it all up could get you prosecuted in the UK…and a criminal record…🤬
Could, but not really, right? I mean, Author is fairly discreet about his identity, but he has naught to fear from the UK criminal justice system anyway, because it isn’t a criminal offense, is it?
Yes. It’s Hate Speech and it is a criminal offence…
Basically a blaspheme law through the back door…
Or as my mother put it, Because I said so, that’s why.
Good spot, Chris K. It’s not a typo, just a clumsly, ambiguous construction. It means “confirms that I am God’s final prophet in the Koran”. Thanks for pointing it out. I’ll be more careful in the future!
Chris K, Author: you just need a comma between “confirms that I am” and “in the Koran”.
Tautologist are gonna tautologize.
Iron Knee-cap…sounds like a school metal band…
Reading up a little on the various acts concerning hate crimes in the UK … In the verbiage, it looks to me like Author for example can say what he wants about the likelihood that Mohammed’s claims are valid.
Wikipedia helpfully includes some examples, and the one I found interesting was one Harry Taylor, who left anti-religious literature in an airport prayer room and got smacked down for it. Would we do that? Well, I hope not.
Mohammed was a wacko, and I don’t mind saying so, but you need to think about whether it’s in a context that calls for it. An airport prayer room was not such a context, and Mr. Taylor’s defense could only be that he was too obtuse to understand this.
He might even so have gotten away with it, if the material hadn’t included a lot of crude sex stuff, guaranteed to not help your case. The cartoon where a smiling Jesus on the cross appears next to a can of new “no nails” adhesive – that might have gotten a laugh, and a “condition of this offense.”
Ferrous & M27:
Or a West Indian woke wok steel band?
Paella is also traditionally cooked in such vessels.
Donn. Whilst wearing a T-Shirt with the slogan…”Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into Buildings” I was asked to remove the “offensive and Islamophobic” T-shirt by a policeman in Manchester. And I have been asked to leave and barred from several pubs in Manchester and twice in different parts of Yorkshire. Though I wore that top in a stag pub crawl in Chester and only received positive comments until I was too pissed to understand English….🤣
M27, so that is how it is in your country which lacks a constitution that provides a wall between religion and government? I’m glad we have such a divide here in the USA. btw, Kamala cleaned tRump’s clock tonight. I am celebrating. I am sure you are, too. What would it take for you to have separation of church and state in the UK? That is if it weren’t a fucking kingdom?
To be fair, it’s a pretty damned thin wall. So subject to interpretation, that in practice the difference could be somewhat elusive.
I suspect I’ll never see anyone wearing that T-shirt here in Portugal, but it isn’t because the authorities would come down on the wearer, more because it isn’t the kind of divisive issue where anyone enjoys getting in people’s faces about it. Who knows, maybe it’s even because the Catholic church held sway for so many centuries here, where in the US the various religious cults were duking it out the whole time.
And maybe because as yet the modern moorish invasion hasn’t really gone very far here. That’s what’s going on with the islamophobia thing – the T-shirt is about specifically middle eastern terrorists. It’s as much like racism (not, because pretty much the same race), as religion (not, because it objects to actions with a vague connection to foreign religion and neglects to criticise domestic religion.)