All a matter of interpretation. Didn’t Mo iron out all the distortions that the Jews and Christians had made with the original, perfect, incorruptible, eternal … … … message?
Keeping in mind, the perfect word of God, as sourced from the Bible, approves of the murder of people who pick up sticks on Sunday, slavery, including selling your own daughter, murdering disrespectful children and capturing and raping women as the spoils of war. The Koran sanctions the murder of apostates and infidels. The Book of Mormon sanctions the discrimination of “dark-skinned people” for the crime of not being “white and wholesome”.
Islamic Jesus (‘Isa’) would say that he proclaimed the Gospel (Injil) revealed to him by Allah which is in harmony with the Qur’an. Muslim scholars generally maintain that the New Testament does not represent the Injil, although it may contain parts of the message. I wonder has ‘Islamic Jesus’ ever been mentioned in this strip or is Jesus exclusively cast as the standard Christian ‘incarnation’? It dawned on me recently, how from an Islamic point of view, the Prophet Jesus was a total disaster since his coming has led billions of people to worship him as God in the Christian religion, an abhorrent violation of Islam. He hardly deserves the accolade of being the second greatest prophet of Islam – more like the worst!
The One True God had Word Perfect all the way back then. Unfortunately, he/ she/ it/ they also suffered from a multiple personality disorder which, naturally, spilled over into the multitude of ‘truths’ that we see today and which, sadly, science still hasn’t found a cure for. God is still hoping that a cure will be found one day and until that day he/she/it/they lives in hope, whereas the rest of us live in confusion. So it goes.
forteatwo — Ya know, considered objectively, it kinda looks like moral progress to go from killing people just for picking up sticks, to killing them for disloyalty to the community of faith, to merely keeping them out of the club because of the color of their skin.
At least it does to me. So, considered subjectively I guess…
E.T. – I remember staying at your place about eighteen years ago doing the North 500 before it became a thing. We had four pre-war MGs, and had a great time. It must have been under the previous owners, so before your time. Hope you’re enjoying it.
Cheers,
Colin.
E.T., the idea that god has a disorder, or is broken in some way, is an idea I’ve heard before, to account for suffering in the world. (Philip K Dick in Valis, and Leonard Cohen, and in sure more serious sources.)
On the other hand, we know evolution accounts for it better. In fact, suffering is an integral part of that system.
It should be noted that you don’t even have to compare the different books with each other to find contradictions, each contradicts themselves as it is.
Good Omens is the ultimate guide to religion via the satanic chattering nuns of st. Beryl reading from the good and accurate prophecies of Agnes Nutter, witch. For many years I’ve been planting it in mormon temples, scientology offices and other assorted gathering places of those in need of guidance.
Except Mosques, in those places I leave “the simple guide to cocktail mixing”.
StevenAS: A good example of your point is in the early pages of Genesis, re the origin of humans. Firstly, it is stated quite clearly that humans were created male and female (a breeding pair, like the other animals). A few pages later, it is, again quite clearly, stated that only one, male, human was created in the beginning and that some time later, another, female, human was formed from one of the male’s ribs, to make the breeding pair.
Presumably, two creation myths (maybe more) had been in general circulation when Genesis was being compiled. I can just imagine an editorial committee of scribes debating as to which myth to put in and finally coming to a compromise conclusion – ach, just put them both in!
So the OT starts as it goes on, frequently contradicting itself.
My understanding is that the Lilith legend was a retcon to reconcile the 2 versions. Lilith was the 1st woman & Eve was the 2nd, made after Lilith was too uppity.
So a man goes to Heaven and finds things are out of sort, the clothes don’t fit, the food is terrible and the superway system is malfunctioning. He asks one of the angels
“What’s wrong?”. “You see that man over there, He really is God, but He thinks he’s a doctor.
May the congregation be blessed with an understanding of this Scripture.
Contest in a girl’s college: write a short story which contains religion, sex and mystery.
Winner’s story: “Oh God, I am pregnant, I wonder who did it.”
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All a matter of interpretation. Didn’t Mo iron out all the distortions that the Jews and Christians had made with the original, perfect, incorruptible, eternal … … … message?
Keeping in mind, the perfect word of God, as sourced from the Bible, approves of the murder of people who pick up sticks on Sunday, slavery, including selling your own daughter, murdering disrespectful children and capturing and raping women as the spoils of war. The Koran sanctions the murder of apostates and infidels. The Book of Mormon sanctions the discrimination of “dark-skinned people” for the crime of not being “white and wholesome”.
Islamic Jesus (‘Isa’) would say that he proclaimed the Gospel (Injil) revealed to him by Allah which is in harmony with the Qur’an. Muslim scholars generally maintain that the New Testament does not represent the Injil, although it may contain parts of the message. I wonder has ‘Islamic Jesus’ ever been mentioned in this strip or is Jesus exclusively cast as the standard Christian ‘incarnation’? It dawned on me recently, how from an Islamic point of view, the Prophet Jesus was a total disaster since his coming has led billions of people to worship him as God in the Christian religion, an abhorrent violation of Islam. He hardly deserves the accolade of being the second greatest prophet of Islam – more like the worst!
How can either Testament or the Koran be the “perfect word” of God when, at the time, Word Perfect didn’t exist?
The Dude abides 😉
The One True God had Word Perfect all the way back then. Unfortunately, he/ she/ it/ they also suffered from a multiple personality disorder which, naturally, spilled over into the multitude of ‘truths’ that we see today and which, sadly, science still hasn’t found a cure for. God is still hoping that a cure will be found one day and until that day he/she/it/they lives in hope, whereas the rest of us live in confusion. So it goes.
forteatwo — Ya know, considered objectively, it kinda looks like moral progress to go from killing people just for picking up sticks, to killing them for disloyalty to the community of faith, to merely keeping them out of the club because of the color of their skin.
At least it does to me. So, considered subjectively I guess…
E.T.
The One True God had Word Perfect all the way back then.
Yeah, but he/she/it/they were not inocculated against the BIG EVIL.
The Ascii value of “Bill Gates III” is 666 for a reason. M$’s WORD defeated WPS, and here we see trhe result!
E.T. – I remember staying at your place about eighteen years ago doing the North 500 before it became a thing. We had four pre-war MGs, and had a great time. It must have been under the previous owners, so before your time. Hope you’re enjoying it.
Cheers,
Colin.
E.T., the idea that god has a disorder, or is broken in some way, is an idea I’ve heard before, to account for suffering in the world. (Philip K Dick in Valis, and Leonard Cohen, and in sure more serious sources.)
On the other hand, we know evolution accounts for it better. In fact, suffering is an integral part of that system.
And that’s my subjective opinion.
I think this is the best J&Mo strip this week.
But of course that is just my subjective …
One day in the deep past, some apes rose up on their legs, and created gods.
It should be noted that you don’t even have to compare the different books with each other to find contradictions, each contradicts themselves as it is.
Good Omens is the ultimate guide to religion via the satanic chattering nuns of st. Beryl reading from the good and accurate prophecies of Agnes Nutter, witch. For many years I’ve been planting it in mormon temples, scientology offices and other assorted gathering places of those in need of guidance.
Except Mosques, in those places I leave “the simple guide to cocktail mixing”.
StevenAS: A good example of your point is in the early pages of Genesis, re the origin of humans. Firstly, it is stated quite clearly that humans were created male and female (a breeding pair, like the other animals). A few pages later, it is, again quite clearly, stated that only one, male, human was created in the beginning and that some time later, another, female, human was formed from one of the male’s ribs, to make the breeding pair.
Presumably, two creation myths (maybe more) had been in general circulation when Genesis was being compiled. I can just imagine an editorial committee of scribes debating as to which myth to put in and finally coming to a compromise conclusion – ach, just put them both in!
So the OT starts as it goes on, frequently contradicting itself.
My understanding is that the Lilith legend was a retcon to reconcile the 2 versions. Lilith was the 1st woman & Eve was the 2nd, made after Lilith was too uppity.
So a man goes to Heaven and finds things are out of sort, the clothes don’t fit, the food is terrible and the superway system is malfunctioning. He asks one of the angels
“What’s wrong?”. “You see that man over there, He really is God, but He thinks he’s a doctor.
May the congregation be blessed with an understanding of this Scripture.
Contest in a girl’s college: write a short story which contains religion, sex and mystery.
Winner’s story: “Oh God, I am pregnant, I wonder who did it.”
Someone: “Holy Ghost”: possible answer to girl’s question?