How about this quote from Pratchett novel…”The Supreme Grand Master smiled in the depths of his robe. It was amazing, this mystic business. You tell them a lie, and then when you don’t need it any more you tell them another lie and tell them they’re progressing along the road to wisdom. Then instead of laughing they follow you even more, hoping that at the heart of all the lies they’ll find the truth. And bit by bit they accept the unacceptable. Amazing.”
The pigeon is clearly an avian construction, placed into an exact physical juxtaposition to represent metaphysical interpolation of an inexact cartesian manifestation….I am sure that it’s final horizontal position is clearly to represent the collapse of the wave function an thus completely renders the copenhagen interpretation as effective as a string-vest space suit…
@M27Holts
God exists in a quantum state of indeterminacy: He exists in all states and in all positions at all times. His waveform would collapse were He ever observed.
But as with superposition, one cannot observe God directly; one can only observe the resulting consequences: Interference, in the case of the double-split experiment; Reality in the case of God.
Therefore, the Copenhagen Interpretation is valid.
Thou all shall burn in the sulphurous pit created for those who blaspheme. That is the Holy Ghost hovering near our Lord, not some public square pigeon.
SoG. I just typed that from a stream of consciousness…it is complete bollocks , taken from the lucky-bag if my mind. Maybe god is in all states as a quantum of indeterminancy? However why does he not like Bacon Butties and short skirts on xx sapiens?
@M27Holts
I wondered whether it was the output of some Pseudo-Profundity Generator computer program. Kudos if it came out your head… It must feel a lot cleaner in there now!
I have just started reading Pratchett again after a two year hiatus reading a lot of heavy science books…some of his metaphors and whatever just got my creative juices flowing. Pratchett is the perfect antidote to the depressing Afghanistan news thats on every morning before I get to switch it to sports…
Anyway. On the subject of DEATH. I reckon it will be like general Anaesthetic only you don’t come to in The recovery room surrounded by seemingly all rocket fit nurses…but that was the drugs still in my system. I was sat up in my ward bed an hour later, stuffing a pork pie in my face..the sister on my ward said it was the first time she had witnessed anybody not nauseous…clearly I aint human…
@Andréa – “How I wish Sir Terry had lived to write all the novels he still had in his head.”
And we would thus be blessed with his presence forever. The wonder and true gift[1] (and the curse)[2] of such people is not that they get a fixed number of ideas to share, but that they are a perpetual font of idea /generation/. When they dip into their well of ideas to bring one into the light, multiple new ideas are born, which join the unlit masses in their skulls, already clamouring for illumination.
[1] Sir Terry’s other gift was in knowing how to share as many of his ideas as possible, in as dense a format as possible.
[2] being that, for as many ideas that are freed, exponentially more would necessarily be born, and consigned to die in the dark. Either due to the ravages of time, or being perceived unworthy by the curator of the well.
M27Holts: Science books are not all heavy going. I find Dawkins in particular very easy to read, while being scientifically accurate. But I agree with you that Pratchett is very readable, and mentally stimulating, as well as, just, very funny! (Often compared to P G Wodehouse, but I think far superior to PGW!) Sir Terry is gone, but has left us a huge body of reading material, which I hope will still be enjoyed by generations still to come. (Eat your hearts out, soon-to-be forgotten Tolkien and Lewis!)
SoG. I was reading mainly about the mathematics of the standard model that is central to Quantum mechanics, but also re-visiting the more opaque area’s of pure-mathematics as well as the up-to-date latest takes on game-theory, set-theory and chaos maths as well. Dawkins himself would acknowledge that mathematics and computational logic are not his strong areas of expertise…I find Dawkins very pleasurable reading but it doesn’t stretch my understanding like mathematics and physics does…
Oh. And I am re-reading the 8 city-watch novels by TP. And yes they are very similar to PGW. But I think that Bertie Wooster and Jeeves were characters that inspired TP to create his own superlative inhabitants DEATH being my favourite…
Amusing that I noticed this comic after watching The Exorcist again tonight, a film that keeps getting funnier every single time I see it. Motivated reasoning seems to be the accepted worldview nowadays, no matter how many earnest attempts are made to be rational and truthful.
Instead of seeking the answers in science, medicine and psychology, many are turning to witch doctors (or more appropriately, alternative facts). It’s just easier not to evolve beyond such thinking, it seems.
Our local shopping mall the Trafford centre have been practicing several types of Terrorist attacks. Apparently the securiry services are expecting an attack on uk soil within the next four months. I never thought that I would see a government have to have SAS squads on alert in shopping centres…or even more suprising to me – how we seem to accept the threat as if it is normal for 7th century ideas to be accepted as normal in rhe 21st century…fucking Ridiculous…
M27 – There’ll be plenty of other work there now. The ragheads won’t want to do any manual labour now they are “victorious”. You could be the rear gunner on the laundry van.
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How about this quote from Pratchett novel…”The Supreme Grand Master smiled in the depths of his robe. It was amazing, this mystic business. You tell them a lie, and then when you don’t need it any more you tell them another lie and tell them they’re progressing along the road to wisdom. Then instead of laughing they follow you even more, hoping that at the heart of all the lies they’ll find the truth. And bit by bit they accept the unacceptable. Amazing.”
Bird sacrifice again?
What’s in the feed?
Aah, thanks, M27 — a grain of (un)truth then.
How I wish Sir Terry had lived to write all the novels he still had in his head. Thanks for the quote.
Nice to see the pigeon again – Nature’s own irony meter!
The pigeon is clearly an avian construction, placed into an exact physical juxtaposition to represent metaphysical interpolation of an inexact cartesian manifestation….I am sure that it’s final horizontal position is clearly to represent the collapse of the wave function an thus completely renders the copenhagen interpretation as effective as a string-vest space suit…
M27Holts: Are you a Scientologist, or did you just make up all that verbal garbage by yourself and unaided?
OR – hear me out – maybe it’s god’s way of keeping believers on the WRONG path.
Mwahahahahaha
I never even noticed the pigeon until folks pointed it out. Nice!
M27Holts: does this word salad come with mayo?
@M27Holts
God exists in a quantum state of indeterminacy: He exists in all states and in all positions at all times. His waveform would collapse were He ever observed.
But as with superposition, one cannot observe God directly; one can only observe the resulting consequences: Interference, in the case of the double-split experiment; Reality in the case of God.
Therefore, the Copenhagen Interpretation is valid.
(Can I have croutons with that?)
Thou all shall burn in the sulphurous pit created for those who blaspheme. That is the Holy Ghost hovering near our Lord, not some public square pigeon.
SoG. I just typed that from a stream of consciousness…it is complete bollocks , taken from the lucky-bag if my mind. Maybe god is in all states as a quantum of indeterminancy? However why does he not like Bacon Butties and short skirts on xx sapiens?
@M27Holts
I wondered whether it was the output of some Pseudo-Profundity Generator computer program. Kudos if it came out your head… It must feel a lot cleaner in there now!
I have just started reading Pratchett again after a two year hiatus reading a lot of heavy science books…some of his metaphors and whatever just got my creative juices flowing. Pratchett is the perfect antidote to the depressing Afghanistan news thats on every morning before I get to switch it to sports…
String vest space suit is my own oxymoron…
Anyway. On the subject of DEATH. I reckon it will be like general Anaesthetic only you don’t come to in The recovery room surrounded by seemingly all rocket fit nurses…but that was the drugs still in my system. I was sat up in my ward bed an hour later, stuffing a pork pie in my face..the sister on my ward said it was the first time she had witnessed anybody not nauseous…clearly I aint human…
@Andréa – “How I wish Sir Terry had lived to write all the novels he still had in his head.”
And we would thus be blessed with his presence forever. The wonder and true gift[1] (and the curse)[2] of such people is not that they get a fixed number of ideas to share, but that they are a perpetual font of idea /generation/. When they dip into their well of ideas to bring one into the light, multiple new ideas are born, which join the unlit masses in their skulls, already clamouring for illumination.
[1] Sir Terry’s other gift was in knowing how to share as many of his ideas as possible, in as dense a format as possible.
[2] being that, for as many ideas that are freed, exponentially more would necessarily be born, and consigned to die in the dark. Either due to the ravages of time, or being perceived unworthy by the curator of the well.
M27Holts: Science books are not all heavy going. I find Dawkins in particular very easy to read, while being scientifically accurate. But I agree with you that Pratchett is very readable, and mentally stimulating, as well as, just, very funny! (Often compared to P G Wodehouse, but I think far superior to PGW!) Sir Terry is gone, but has left us a huge body of reading material, which I hope will still be enjoyed by generations still to come. (Eat your hearts out, soon-to-be forgotten Tolkien and Lewis!)
SoG. I was reading mainly about the mathematics of the standard model that is central to Quantum mechanics, but also re-visiting the more opaque area’s of pure-mathematics as well as the up-to-date latest takes on game-theory, set-theory and chaos maths as well. Dawkins himself would acknowledge that mathematics and computational logic are not his strong areas of expertise…I find Dawkins very pleasurable reading but it doesn’t stretch my understanding like mathematics and physics does…
Oh. And I am re-reading the 8 city-watch novels by TP. And yes they are very similar to PGW. But I think that Bertie Wooster and Jeeves were characters that inspired TP to create his own superlative inhabitants DEATH being my favourite…
I also recommend Tom Sharpe…especially Riotous Assembly and the Wilt books…
Amusing that I noticed this comic after watching The Exorcist again tonight, a film that keeps getting funnier every single time I see it. Motivated reasoning seems to be the accepted worldview nowadays, no matter how many earnest attempts are made to be rational and truthful.
Instead of seeking the answers in science, medicine and psychology, many are turning to witch doctors (or more appropriately, alternative facts). It’s just easier not to evolve beyond such thinking, it seems.
Our local shopping mall the Trafford centre have been practicing several types of Terrorist attacks. Apparently the securiry services are expecting an attack on uk soil within the next four months. I never thought that I would see a government have to have SAS squads on alert in shopping centres…or even more suprising to me – how we seem to accept the threat as if it is normal for 7th century ideas to be accepted as normal in rhe 21st century…fucking Ridiculous…
M27 — Time for you to move out of the area. I hear J & M cartoons are looking for someone to promote their cartoons in the new free Afghanistan. 🙂
Hm, with a I (heart) Salman Rushdie T-shirt on as well? No thanks…
M27 – There’ll be plenty of other work there now. The ragheads won’t want to do any manual labour now they are “victorious”. You could be the rear gunner on the laundry van.
One of my friends was contracting out there for 12 months on an incredible day-rate…but no way would I put my life on the line not even for 5k a day…