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April 9th, 2025
A resurrection today from 2007. Poor Twelfth Imam! Let’s hope he’s got plenty of reading material.
A resurrection today from 2007. Poor Twelfth Imam! Let’s hope he’s got plenty of reading material.
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Who were the first Eleven? Answers on a postcard please
Dave Dee Dozey Beakey Mick and Titch?
Sorry, that was some other group, but also long ago.
Not a full dozen though.
@M27Holts
Wild guess that at least half of them were called Muhammad Something?
M27: the first eleven? No, I never qualified.
As Woody from Toy Story said:
“Somebody’s poisoned the water hole.”
Hiding in a well for 1200 years? Another batshit crazy story but one, until yesterday I had never heard…I wonder if anybody actually believing that story has ever studied philosophy. But again reinforces the observation by Voltaire….I don’t need to spell it out….
M27, I may be putting Descartes before the horse, but could it be “I sink, therefore I swim?”
He’s not hiding in the well… he fell in and is waiting for Skippy or Lassie to fetch help.
Or maybe “Cammy the Camel”.
“What’s that you’re saying, Cammy? The Imam’s stuck in the well?”
There are only so many wells in the world large enough to hold an imam. With an estimated 160 million twelvers in the world (thank you wikipedia), if each of them checked a few, they would have found him by now.
@Highlander – But … he’s hiding. He won’t die of skin cancer, skulking away in the dark like that. And – seeing that longevity is a bit of a compulsion these days for me – I’d like to know what he eats. Bugs, slugs, and scrugs? Or does he get protein from fish in an underground stream?
It’d be quite fun to ditch a somewhat elderly simian skeleton, in Imamic garb of the period, down some well in Mecca or Medina, or better still, Jerusalem. If you think an unholy ruckus is fun.
Alerted to the existence of a wikipedia article, I couldn’t resist looking. I was skimming pretty light by the time I got to a section that specifically covers the longevity question, which I thought particularly weird – the discussion of whether it’s reasonable to suppose he could live that long. Well, sure, because various persons are known to have lived that long, like Jesus (?), etc.
Hello:
1. No it isn’t reasonable. No one lives anywhere near that long.
2. Your sources for the supposed exceptions are in the Bible? Which you know is full of wack bullshit.
3. Where in any history however imaginary did it say Jesus lived a long time?
4. Anyway, is God omnipotent, or not? If it wants to keep this guy happy and healthy where no one can see him, obviously, it can, or what is omnipotence good for? So what’s the quacking about how impossibly long lifespans could be reasonable?
The twelfth imam is in a state of quantum indeterminacy. He is both in the well and not in the well. He is both alive and dead. He both needs to eat and doesn’t need to eat. Only at the right time will his waveform collapse, and he will emerge from the well.
This is more evidence, if more were needed, of the greatness of Islam in its prediction of quantum theory.